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CRA News April 2008

Selected articles from the newsletter of the Carmel Residents Association

Marcia Hovick, Harriet Shanner and Jonnie Webb
From left, Jean White, a former Citizen of the Year, Dianne and Chuck Elliott and Barbara Livingston, chairperson of the day's event as well as a former Citizen of the Year, had a chance to talk before the Citizen of the Year ceremony began. Barbara received many kudos for the great success of the celebration. See below for more about the event.

CRA April General Meeting:
Carmel firefighters--in their own words

Thursday, April 24
         4:45 p.m.
Vista Lobos Meeting Room
(Torres between 3rd & 4th)

Although it still has not appeared on a City Council agenda, a debate on fire service is definitely ongoing in the media and among residents [See related article below]. For this reason, we decided to give our members and the public the opportunity to hear and question two of our longtime firefighters, August Beacham and Mitch Kastros. In addition to addressing the consolidation and staffing issues, we will hear an update from Augie on the status of the ongoing fire-hydrant repair. Engineer Augie Beacham joined the Carmel Fire Department in 1986. A graduate of Stanford University Hospital's Paramedic Program, he also attended the University of California at Santa Cruz. He has served as a firefighter paramedic for the Carmel Regional Fire Ambulance and has been an Engineer for the Fire Department since 2000. Augie is also an instructor for the Monterey County Wildland Fire School and serves as president of the Carmel Professional Firefighters.

Captain Mitch Kastros joined the Carmel Fire Department as a volunteer in 1975 and was hired full time in 1979. He has a BS degree in business administration and pursues continuing education in firefighting and emergency medicine. An emergency medical technician, Mitch serves as shift supervisor, the department's training instructor and coordinator for medical training, representative to the County Medical Liaison Committee, public education coordinator and instructor for CPR and Citizens' Emergency Response Training.



EDITORIAL

Cheers and Chides

Cheers to CRA Board member Vinz Koller for alerting the city, on behalf of the Monterey County Democrats, that the English language version of the Carmel ballot for the April 8 election "is misleading and violates state election law because it leads voters to believe that they must vote for 2 people, when actually voting for 1 may strengthen a vote for a candidate." [The Spanish translation on the same ballot is correct and says, "Vote for no more than two."] And ... .

Cheers to City Clerk Heidi Burch who--upon checking with City Attorney Don Freeman--followed Koller's request and promptly placed ads in local newspapers and notified every registered voter by mail as to what the correct language should be. This issue had previously been raised with the city by Barbara Livingston and with the county by the League of Women Voters. The Carmel City Council election, unlike all other city elections in Monterey County, is run by the City of Carmel with some technical assistance by the county.

Chides to the City Council for sending out its "progress report" so close to a municipal election. We have been concerned about this in previous years but have never received so many comments or heard so much unhappiness about it as this year. The gist of most complaints is that this gives an unfair advantage to the incumbents, who are mentioned in or signed the report, and that it creates the appearance of electioneering. It is easy to fix this issue. Simply do not send it within 90 days of an election.

Cheers to the city for repairing the sections of fence at the Forest Theater, which were knocked down by the January storms.

Two Chides to City Administrator Rich Guillen--the first one for saying that it would "be better to tackle the issue [of consolidation of the fire department] after the April 8th election." The second for then using a taxpayer-funded ad in the Pine Cone to address the subject anyway. First of all, we do not understand why issues of public safety should be postponed for political reasons. Secondly, we understand even less why taxpayer-funded advertising should then become a substitute for a public dialogue in front of the City Council. The issues raised by a possible consolidation of the fire department are of serious concern to Carmel residents. They deserve a speedy public hearing. [See related article below.]

Cheers to the City Council for approving resident-only parking for five homes on Mountain View and two homes west of Santa Rita, which are severely affected by parking for events at the Forest Theater; and

Cheers to CRA member and Forest Theater neighbor Carolyn Hardy, who supported the above action, but asked the council, "What about some parking relief for all? ... How about opening up our streets for safe and easier passage for emergency vehicles? ... The elephant in the room is the parking problem around Forest Theater ... By addressing the issue in a piecemeal approach, you are only manicuring one toenail at a time on one hoof of that elephant ... Whenever you bring the Forest Theater renovation plans into the public light, you must address the parking issue front and center ... The parking situation around the theater still is not satisfactory. It is time once again to re-evaluate all of it, especially in light of your desire to make the Forest Theater renovation a top priority. Once renovated, the theater conceivably will attract even more congestion to the neighborhood."

Chides to the state for continuing with plans to control the light brown apple moth by spraying chemicals on residential areas for up to five years. A recent study concluded that in New Zealand, which is environmentally similar to the Central Coast, the pest does not cause economically-significant crop damage. This research was done following Assembly member John Laird's request for independent, third-party scientific review of the state's eradication plans. Since public health and safety are involved, we would like to see the Carmel City Council weigh in on this issue also.

Chides to the City Council for insisting that the Brown Act forbids them to respond to comments or questions asked of them during "Public Appearances." For example, when the opponents of the speed bump [See article below] appeared before the City Council in January, they received no comment, reaction or direction from the council to staff. The Brown Act actually says that while "no action or discussion shall be undertaken on any item not appearing on the posted agenda ... a member...or...staff may briefly respond to statements made or questions posed ... In addition ... a member or staff may ask a question for clarification ... Furthermore, a member ... or the body itself may provide a reference to staff or other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to the body at a subsequent meeting concerning any matter, or take action to direct staff to place a matter of business on future agendas." (Code information courtesy of CRA board member Beth Wright).

Cheers to Ali McDaniel for securing large heavy-duty bags from CalTrans, which beach cleanup volunteers fill with hundreds of pounds of charcoal each month; to the head of Public Works, Stu Ross, for picking up those heavy bags right on the beach; and to beach cleanup regular Carl Iverson, who found a $20 bill on the way to the February cleanup and insisted on donating it to help pay for cleanup supplies.

President's Message
Carmel's urban forest and its history

by Roberta Miller

On our morning walks, Monte and I often look up at the towering pines and feel that tremendous sense of awe knowing we live in a place of such astonishing beauty. I had been thinking of writing a president's message about the pivotal role of the urban forest in Carmel's past, present and future, when I came across a letter Linda Smith sent to the city last July in response to the General Plan Update meetings. Voilá--the message I wanted to convey, but written with the depth of historical and biological knowledge that Linda has at her fingertips. So here, with her permission, is Linda's letter:

"As a 3rd generation Carmelite I want to strongly urge the city to provide the necessary resources to protect and nurture the historic native Monterey pines and oaks of Carmel's urban forest. Carmel's upper canopy pines with their oak under-story provide priceless intrinsic value as well as economic value to our city:

"• for the unifying harmony and beauty they provide in our skyline and for which the city has always been renowned the world over; "o for the many biological services they provide that enhance the health of our city's environment;

"• as a haven for wild birds, squirrels and other creatures, who add so much to our lives with their songs;

"• for the ecological role they play in the greater native Monterey Pine Forest of the Monterey Bay area;

"• for the key cultural role the forest plays in Carmel's history. Carmel is not just any town; it has always been a 'village in a pine forest.' Lately our forest has lost much of its natural harmony and cohesion as our stately veteran Monterey pines disappear and more and more non-native trees replace them. The urban forest is becoming more of an artificial hodgepodge. We should reverse this trend and make a commitment to replenish our native trees and shrubs in the city and require that newcomers contribute to this civic effort on private property; and

"• for the contribution our urban forest makes in fighting global warming.

"There has been some misunderstanding about the role of our venerable pines in Carmel's history. Some have claimed that the city's Monterey pines were all planted. Though many trees were planted by Papa Devendorf, who developed Carmel, and later by Judge John Catlin, of the first Forge in the Forest and then mayor of Carmel for many years, the majority of the city was indeed a native Monterey Pine Forest when it began.

"My father, Harry Lachmund, first came here as a boy of 11 in 1904 with his mother, brother, and grandmother. He later became a forest pathologist and he knew our forest intimately. Family photos and other historical photos corroborate his description of the extent of the native Monterey Pine Forest at that time. There had been a series of fires in the 1890s and in 1900, and many of the trees were young, but the forest extended to about Monte Verde from Carmel Hill. The Monterey Pine Forest was part of a larger and exquisite tapestry of habitats that included Coastal Sage Scrub and Maritime Chaparral to the northeast and to the southwest of Monte Verde, with the Coastal Terrace Prairie along the ocean and on Carmel Point. Amidst these unique habitats were scattered pines and oaks as well. This complex tapestry of vegetation provided homes for a multitude of birds, animals and plants long since disappeared from our landscape.

"The Monterey Pine Forest is a dynamic ecosystem. It ebbs and flows, expands and contracts, adjusting to climatic changes through time. It has been in an expansive phase this past 100 years, and if this beautiful area had been left to evolve according to Mother Nature's design, Carmel would probably resemble the natural areas of Del Monte Forest today. In any event, though no longer a natural forest, our urban forest is still the glue that holds Carmel together.

"Those artists, writers, poets and musicians who gave Carmel her original soul as a town, whose legacy has benefited Carmel throughout its history in incalculable ways, loved and honored the natural beauty and treasure of Carmel's trees and shrubs and they insisted on protecting them. I believe we should seek to replicate and restore wherever possible the vegetation that is native to this area, primarily our Monterey pines and coast live oaks, but also including the toyons, manzanitas, ceanothus, coffeeberries and other shrubs and plants that are part of the forest understory. We owe our forest nothing less than that we give it the honor it deserves and that we nurture and steward it for the future. We cannot improve on Mother Nature's design."

Linda Lachmund Smith
Carmel
July 9, 2007

Linda Smith is a co-founder of Monterey Pine Forest Watch, which is dedicated to preserving the Monterey Pine Forest located on the Monterey Peninsula.


Beach Cleanup

Saturday, April 26
10 a.m. - noon

* Volunteers meet at foot of Ocean Avenue
* Please bring gloves
* Coffee and cookies served courtesy of Caffe Cardinale and Safeway Stores, Carmel.
* Thanks to the Carmel Pine Cone for the ad donated each month!

There is more debris than usual to pick up because we were rained out in March!


It's budget season!

Budget hearings are pretty much the only time when citizens can ask the city to spend money on their priorities. So, if you want free dog biscuits handed out at City Hall, more trees or a swimming pool in Devendorf Park, this is your chance to ask.

Here is the schedule. All meetings are in Council Chambers.

Thurs., 17 April, 4:30 p.m.
Special workshop for City Council to set its 3-year goals and priorities

Wed., 14 May, 4:30 p.m.
Planning commission will review the 2008/2009 Capital Improvement Program

Tues., 20 May, 4:30 p.m.
Special meeting for council to receive proposed budget from the city administrator

Tues., 10 June, 4:30 p.m.
City Council workshop study session and public hearing to review/adopt budget

Tues., 17 June, 4:30 p.m.
Special City Council Meeting (if budget not adopted on June 10)--public hearing to review/adopt budget


Speed bump gone but questions linger

The controversy about the large, yellow and black rubber speed bump on Dolores between the Mission Ranch and Santa Lucia took another unexpected turn. Almost as suddenly as the bump had appeared, without notice and consultation--it vanished into thin air. With that, a showdown in court may have been averted by the city. However, some serious questions remain:

• Why did City Administrator Guillen order the installation without input from the Traffic Committee, the city's traffic engineer or the City Council? City Code states that only the City Council can authorize such an installation except in an emergency, and then the Chief of Police may do so. But with speeds under the speed limit before the installation, clearly no emergency existed. City officials were unable to prove that the bump is needed. Statistics show that Dolores is similar in traffic and vehicle speeds to other Carmel streets. There have been no accidents there. Speeds were 21 to 23 mph 85% of the time before the bump and 20 mph after its installation.

• When the city finally held a meeting on the speed bump, why were attendees told that it was restricted to residents from that neighborhood, when the installation set a precedent for the whole city and all city taxpayers have to foot the bill?

• Why were far more palatable traffic-calming alternatives never considered? They include bump-outs with trees and other planting, stop signs at Dolores and Franciscan Way or ticketing speeding cars. Another alternative is the police car with an electronic speed monitor, which is often parked on Carpenter Street.

• At whose direction was the speed bump removed?

• And finally, how much did this whole affair cost city taxpayers?

While we await answers to these questions, the residents in the area affected by the speed bump deserve credit for their determination to protect the ambiance of their neighborhood and to be in the forefront of an issue that could affect any neighborhood in the city. They would not accept this unsightly device nor the city's disregard for the municipal code. Instead, they asked questions, requested a dialogue and eventually forced the city to follow the law and remove the speed bump. It goes to show that a few citizens can change the course of a city in a positive direction. Thank you from all of us.


Wayne Kelley named 2007 Citizen of the Year

The lilt of Irish laughter was everywhere at the March 9 Citizen of the Year Celebration! In fact, it was a clean sweep for the Irish.

Irishman, 5th District County Supervisor and CRA member Dave Potter was the jovial master of ceremonies, who delighted all by singing an Irish ditty. After tantalizing the audience with clues about the winner, "the envelope," delivered by Irish lass Mary Condry, confirmed that Irishman Wayne Kelley was the 2007 Citizen of the Year.

CRA President Roberta Miller presented a very surprised Wayne with a lovely Frankie Laney watercolor of Carmel Beach. In addition, Potter gave him citations from the Board of Supervisors as well as from Congressman Sam Farr and Assembly member John Laird. Mayor Sue McCloud was on hand to present Wayne with a certificate from the City Council.

Thirty-seven-year Carmel resident Wayne Kelley, dubbed by one person who nominated him as "a Renaissance man in community service," has long been an active participant in local activities. He served for seven years on Carmel's Forest and Beach Commission and remains active in Friends of Carmel Forest as a volunteer, planting and caring for city trees. A member of the first docent class at Point Lobos State Park, he has conducted tours and given school presentations for 27 years.

A former board member of the Carmel Residents Association, Kelley has participated for 18 years in the group's monthly beach cleanup, for which he has designed and made most of the unique tools used by volunteers to pick up trash and sift out the sand. This active man also enjoys wood carving at the Carmel Foundation.

Wayne and his wife Phyllis participated in the Carmel Fire Department's Neighborhood Emergency Response Program, which prepares citizens to stand ready to assist neighbors and the community in time of need. For ten years he volunteered for Hospice and he still routinely visits shut-ins on behalf of his church.

In addition, Kelley has been an active member of the Big Sur Land Trust, the Cetacean Society and the Sierra Club. He can regularly be seen walking Carmel Beach with his lively Rat Terrier Jasmine. Another person who sent a letter of nomination for this remarkable man said, "Wayne is active and energetic--always willing to help out wherever he is needed. His response is ever positive--it is a pleasure to work with him."

The nearly 140 in attendance at the Woman's Club were treated to delicious hors d'oeuvres by Michael Jones of A Moveable Feast plus a cake, decorated in green, donated by Magdi Ibrahim of Pâtisserie Boissiere.

The marvelous St. Patrick's Day decorations and other details were overseen by event chair Barbara Livingston and her committee, which included: set up--Bill Taylor, Jonathan Sapp and Steve Traxler; audio system--Monte Miller; decorating--Barbara Livingston, Faith Traxler, Mary Taylor and Pamela Smith; check-in table--Wayne and Phyllis Kelley; cake pickup--Frankie Laney; food passers--Susan Gardner, David and Donna Berger, Barry and Kathleen Swift, Tony and Jane Diamond, Marguerite and Frank Primrose; cake passers--Betty Dalsemer, Ovilee Kennedy and Gloria Eldred; and bartenders--Bob Condry, Dick Laney and Pierre Prodis. In addition, many others pitched in to help.

Roberta Miller ended the program with an Irish toast:
   May the lilt of Irish laughter lighten every load.
   May the mist of Irish magic shorten every road ...
      And may all your friends remember all the favors you have owed.


The Carmel Residents Association loses a part of its history

Howard Skidmore, 1917- 2008

Howard Skidmore has been involved one way or another in almost everything the Carmel Residents Association has done in its 21-year history.

A former board member, Howard was a beach cleanup volunteer from the beginning, with his own self-made pick-up tool. In later years he brought a chair and kept an eye on the operation from headquarters at the top of the hill.

When the CRA put on the successful 1994 library fund raiser featuring cartoonist Charles Schulz, Howard was, of course, involved. Exceedingly generous, for several years, as an active participant in the CRA Chili Fiesta in Devendorf Park, he matched the proceeds of the day, doubling the contributions CRA was able to give to the city. Similarly, during lunch at Asilomar, following a CRA tour of the facility, Howard surprised those at his table by treating them to wine and then picking up their entire lunch check.

Zaza Skidmore, an early co-chair of "CRA Dines Out," enlisted Howard's help to get that activity successfully launched.

For years Howard was the dashing master of ceremonies for the Citizen of the Year celebration at the Scout House, enlisting Peggy Purchase to run up the aisle with "the envelope" when he called for it. A professional newspaper man, Howard loyally served as copy editor of this newsletter for years, always willing to rush when necessary and always making welcome suggestions to improve the quality of the publication. [Oh how he will be missed by this editor!]

CRA members fondly remember the talk, Famous People Who Have Met Me, given by Howard in Nov., 2001. The newsletter announcing the meeting ran a front-page photo of Howard with President Harry Truman.

Finally, Howard loved Carmel's magnificent pine forest and took every opportunity to write about it and promote its care and preservation. In 1991, when Burl Ives agreed to give a benefit concert for Carmel's trees, Howard, of course, was one of the small group which drove to the San Jose airport to meet Ives and his family.

While this article is focused on Howard's involvement with the Carmel Residents Association, his career as a newsman for the New York Herald Tribune, a vice president of C & O and B & O Railways and a public relations consultant, who served as special assistant to tycoon Cyrus S. Eaton, was fascinating and distinguished.


Fire safety in the village--we need an open and honest dialogue

What do the City Council and City Administrator say?

According to Mayor Sue McCloud and Council members Karen Sharp and Ken Talmage at the CRA Candidates' Forum, Carmel's fire department is well staffed with no gaps in public safety. And, according to City Administrator Rich Guillen, in an open letter [as a paid advertisement] in the 14 March Pine Cone, "The [fire] staffing level complies with what is commonly referred to as the "2-in/2-out" OSHA regulation which requires fire fighters to work in teams of two. One team enters a building while the second team remains outside and ready to immediately rescue the inside team. Two of four firefighters are Carmel Regional Fire Ambulance (CRFA) employees who are also certified for medical aid. One is a fire fighter/paramedic and the other is a fire fighter/EMT."

What is the Citygate report?

Citygate Associates was commissioned by Carmel, Monterey and Pacific Grove to study the possibility of consolidating the three fire departments. After the release of this study last June, all three cities agreed to move toward the Citygate recommendation to "merge the fire management teams of the three cities to provide an immediate improvement in management support services and the structure to conduct the long range planning necessary to actually merge the operating portions of the three city fire services."

What do the firefighters say?

Carmel firefighters are concerned because the city recently pulled back from negotiations with Pacific Grove and Monterey. According to Guillen, it is because of the April election and the costs involved. Carmel firefighters' pay is the lowest in the county so adjustments would have to be made in a merger.

The firefighters state that the current arrangement whereby the city contracts with Pacific Grove to have Fire Chief Andrew Miller serve also as our fire chief and with the City of Monterey for fire duty chiefs has been beneficial to Carmel. They say morale has never been higher and training has never been so professional. They also know that the current arrangement is only a temporary fix, which is why the three cities, Carmel, Pacific Grove and Monterey, have engaged in consolidation talks. The firefighters are very supportive of the proposed consolidation because they believe that it is Carmel's best option to have high-quality fire services at a price the community can afford.

However, with Carmel's indecision, the other two cities are moving ahead to consolidate their management. This means Carmel's status could change; we might have to pay more to the two cities or could even be told to find another arrangement. It also means that--because the city pays firefighters so much less than neighboring cities--Carmel risks losing long-time firefighters who know how to navigate our community with its quirky addresses.

What do we mean by inadequate staffing?

According to the Citygate report, using the ambulance crew for 2-in/2-out fire staffing "is not a complete solution as the ambulance covers a much larger area than the community of Carmel-by-the-Sea. Given this, the ambulance crew is often unavailable for structure fire staffing." "The time it takes an incipient room fire to fully engulf a room is 4 to 5 minutes ..."

For this reason, Citygate recommends that "Carmel needs to have 3 career firefighters assigned daily to the engine company rather than the present 2 in order to have an effective fire and EMS presence at the scene of an emergency. While this represents an added cost of about $400,000 per year to the City of Carmel, this added staffing need would be there regardless of whether Carmel operated its own fire department or merged line operations with Monterey and Pacific Grove."

How often is our ambulance away from Carmel?

A quick look at just one week of ambulance calls listed in the March 14 Pine Cone not only surprised us but points out exactly why the ambulance crew would not always be able to get suited up and arrive at a fire in those critical four minutes.

Feb. 26: Two Carmel-by-the-Sea (CBTS) calls with patients transported to CHOMP; one call to Forest Lodge Road in Pebble Beach--transport to CHOMP

Feb. 27: CBTS call--transport to CHOMP; dispatch to Cypress Drive

Feb. 28: dispatch to Palermo Way in Pebble Beach--transport to CHOMP

Feb. 29: CBTS call--transport to CHOMP

March 1: dispatch to Alice St. in Monterey March 2: dispatch to Congress and Lopez in Pebble Beach --transport to CHOMP; dispatch to Carmel Middle School --transport to Natividad Medical Center in Salinas

March 3: CBTS call--transport to CHOMP

What about having our own stand-alone department?

Many remember when Carmel had its own fire chief and assistant fire chief and wish that could happen again. According to the Citygate report and the current firefighters, to hire the personnel necessary for a stand-alone department today would be a fiscal impossibility for our small village. Back in the old days, Carmel depended greatly on volunteer firemen. Today that won't work; volunteers aren't available because of many factors, including the increased time required for more extensive training and high housing costs.

But we don't have many fires do we?

Actually, there have been quite a few serious fires already this year. And, if Carmel were to suffer a catastrophic fire (remember Huckleberry Hill in Pebble Beach?), with inadequate staffing, the damage to residents and businesses could be extensive and, with liability issues, could cost the city far more than the consolidation would.

What's next?

We believe that issues of public safety and the city's potential exposure to financially devastating liability make the City Council's delays in addressing this issue completely untenable. To date, the City Council has not even put the issue on the agenda to permit open discussion. Neither our dedicated firefighters nor the residents of Carmel should have to wait any longer.


City holds workshop on Economic Revitalization

Originally planned as a town-hall meeting, the Economic Revitalization Committee (ERC) held a meeting in March with very few in attendance who were not involved with the business community.

The Committee handed out a document showing its goals. Several new goals make sense; others could cause concern about the possibility of over-commercializing our village. You be the judge. A complete copy can be obtained from City Hall.

Below we list one to three-year goals which should interest both residents and business community members:

  • Attract shoppers to side-street stores with tasteful signs
  • Identify current and desired mix of business
  • Draw new restaurants and retail stores with "market profile sell sheets"
  • Locals Night on Thurs. to create a buzz
  • Free 60-day trial period for music permits
  • Install charming map boxes with fun and informative maps
  • Allow tasteful corporate signage to draw upscale events
  • Support new events by providing clear criteria and direction
  • Improve and add better public parking signage
  • Install multi-space meters for extended parking
  • Develop a plan for construction of a multi-level city parking structure
  • Streamline permit process to 30 days
  • Broaden zoning ordinance to expand retail categories
  • Increase utilization of city parks for events
  • Develop a green city plan
  • Add attractive night lights in commercial district, especially for safety reasons
  • Communicate revitalization efforts to the community
  • Conduct visitor and resident research after three years -- (We don't understand why the committee is doing this last rather than first.)

Members of the committee are Heidi Burch, Jeff Burghart, Tom Glidden, Rich Guillen, Paula Hazdovac and Todd Strain.


Tom Parks has new show!

CRA member Tom Parks has a new show opening at the Carl Cherry Center on May 3. Written and directed by Parks, Chums is a romantic comedy--"when lovers become friends ... and friends become lovers ..." featuring Rosemary Luke and Stephen Poletti.

Call (831) 601-5816 for tickets or buy them online from www.ticketguys.com

Tom's last two programs at the Cherry Center were sold out, so don't waste time if you want to see Chums.


Local History Lecture

Dr. Julianne Burton-Carvajal will discuss independent women settlers in 1920s Carmel at the Henry Meade Williams Local History Lecture on Monday, April 28, at 7 p.m. in Carpenter Hall at Sunset Center. This is the last in the year's series.

Originally researched with the late Lani Fremier, Dr. Burton-Carvajal's talk, Two Girls in the Woods, will cover the lives of mystery writer Anne Nash and Potter Dorothy Basset, along with their friends. She will focus on the early lives of these women as well as the legacy they left behind.



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